Hey Guys,
NOTE UPDATED SKINPACK 8/1/2018
Corrected P35 Hack Skin (RE2000) - empennage undersurface is now the correct colour
I thought it made sense to combine the dropbox materials to one page.
This campaign was designed to represent the chaotic and desperate attempts by the
Far East Air Force (FEAF) to stem the Japanese air superiority over the Philippines from
Dec 8 1941 through early March 1942.
My goal for the missions is "historical impressionism". There are multiple reasons why the
recreation of these battles cannot be historically accurate ( aircraft types available , accurate
maps featuring the correct airfields , and so on) , but if we can recreate the feelings of
overwhelming Japanese air strength , challenging flying including obsolescent and unarmed
aircraft , flying out of inadequate airfields , constantly changing bases as they are captured
by the enemy , then I feel the campaign will be successful.
Ultimately I hope the participants enjoy (or learn to enjoy) what I find fascinating about
creating a rich historical recreation.
Please download the skinpack - having historically representative skins goes a long way
towards improving immersion.
Updated Skinpack 8-1-2018 (includes 3 additional skins/1 corrected skin) :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dgzxwhkh7jcjopv/Skinpack_Deadline%20Manila.7z?dl=0
3 Additional Skins/1 Corrected Skin ONLY :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/avigoeadpxrzraz/Deadline%20Manila%20Additional%20Skins.7z?dl=0
Campaign Map :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zps30y2pwt5qu1j/Deadline%20Manila%20Campaign%20Map.jpg?dl=0
Dogfight Practice Map with Campaign Airfields :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k0mf2fvmb7b0abq/Deadline%20Manila%20Warmup%20Dogfight.7z?dl=0
I will follow Dave's model and write briefs here for the upcoming Mission.
Currently planning 6-8 Missions , as long as they are enjoyed.
Kopfdorfer
S~
Putting the glitchy bit at the beginning of the first mission aside because those kinds of things happen often enough with IL2. It doesn't behave as expected all of the time, I liked it and am looking forward to the next one. I think you were spot on with the chaotic, hectic feel to it you mentioned, well done.
Please make yourself at home on the AH site/forums. We're pretty informal about most things. If one of the mods thinks anything you post should be moved anywhere, it's most likely just to make it easier to find. I'm guessing this is the right spot for it, though. Thanks for putting this together.
Im all for flying it but in the future i think we should stick to our regular game settings.. dot range can be adjusted as it was is ok.. but minimap etc should be on.. at least we should know where we are going..
My 2 cents
I think it is a great concept. I look forward to more...
What Fragg said
Deadline Manila Mission 2 Enemy Landings in Lingayen Gulf
Intended to be flown Monday 11/12/2017 at the normal time,
Description Dec 22 , 1941
Following 2 days of bombing and strafing attacks on FEAF airfields , the Japanese made their first landings on northern Luzon at Aparri and Vigan on Dec 10 where they quickly activated the local
airfields , and began moving south towards Manila.
On Dec 12 , they landed at Legaspi in the south , and began the southern prong of the drive on Manila.
On Dec 20 , the IJA 56th Regiment landed at Davao , Mindanao.
At dawn of Dec 22 , reports started coming in that Japanese ships had been sighted in Lingayen Gulf. Shortly afterwards , word came in to the HQ of USAFFE that the enemy was landing ground troops near the town of Lingayen.
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Current Sitrep :
Allied troops still hold the towns of Dagupan and Lingayen , but Japanese troops in the bridgehead are pushing south. The IJAAF may have established air units at Aparri and Vigan.
28th BS(H) 6 x B17s at Clark Field (BB-49-1) will bomb enemy shipping in Lingayen Gulf
Target : AZ-54 , AZ-55 , BA-54 , BA-55 Make your bomb run parallel to the coast.
17th FS 4 x P40Bs at Clark (BB-49-1) will escort B17s of the 28th BS(H) attacking enemy ships in Lingayen Gulf.
3rd FS 2 x P40Es at Iba (AY-51-5) will CAP the southern part of Lingayen Gulf.
39th FS 4 x P35s at Del Carmen (BA-48-6) will attack enemy landing craft and ground troops landing at Lingayen. Make your runs parallel to and along the beach.
After Ground Attack CAP Lingayen until B17s are clear of the area.
17th FS 2 x P40Es and 2 x P40Bs at Nichols (BD-46-8) Attack enemy ships and/or ground troops at Lingayen. After Ground Attack CAP Lingayen until B17s are clear of the area.
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Kopfdorfer
Im in for a bomber
:drinking-43:
I would be interested in particpating myself.. nice work kophdorfer.... excellent work as a matter of fact... i missed the fires mission but would like to pick up on the next one ... my compliments
Considering how to create a value and interest in flying transports...
For some , flying these lumbering beasts holds little interest . For some flying an aircraft
that carries no weapons seems to hold no value or purpose in a mission.
As we all do know , in the reality of war this is not true.
Dwight D. Eisenhower stated that in his view 2 of the main machines that contributed
directly to victory in WW2 were the 2 1/2 Ton Truck and the C-47.
I also personally believe the great fun in IL2 is based chiefly on 2 factors :
1) satisfaction in achieving something that is not easy
2) dramatic tension
For some pilots there is simply a desire to blow stuff up. There are numerous opportunities for the stuff-blower-uppers ,
so I prefer to concentrate on the satisfaction/dramatic tension part of the equation.
How is dramatic tension maximized ? The first method is to infuse the Missions and the Campaign with "Fog of War".
This is why I am stubborn about my settings , which include realistic navigation , limited icons and do not include
minimap paths. I want the pilots to work for their gratification , and that requires flying as much as fighting.
The second is to have unpredictable and uncertain enemy behaviour. I use a lot of triggers in my missions.
I also do not believe in the mission choreography of "fly to an area encounter enemy in the area return home"
model of missions. I want the pilots to always be uncertain as to whether and/or when and where the enemy will appear.
I wanted to infuse some of the missions of "Deadline to Manila" with the sense of the vitality
of transport aircraft. In the reality of the history , as the Japanese isolated Luzon and then
Bataan/Corregidor from the outside , supplies such as food , ammunition , fuel , medicine and even intelligence
had to be brought in from the outside. A number of unsung roles were performed day in and day out
from the end of December 1941 until the capitulation of Corregidor May 6 1942.
PT Boats , Submarines , Civil Aircraft of the Bamboo Fleet , and a J2F Duck dubbed "the Candy Clipper"
(See here : https://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/on-a-wing-and-a-prayer-the-%E2%80%9Cbamboo-fleet%E2%80%9D-shuttle-service-to-corregidor/ ) performed these roles , with unarmed aircraft usually flying long distances without any fighter cover , and having to land on small rough improvised airfields.
While IL2 does not have any of these civil aircraft , we do have the venerable C-47.
As those of you who flew Mission 1 are aware , I am imposing limited fuel loadouts for this campaign
to reflect the chaotic situation and limited impact of the FEAF (Far East Air Force).
My base fuel load is 50% for bombers and 60% for fighters.
When C-47s are involved as human flown aircraft , a few simple rules will be observed :
1) All C-47s that are not AI MUST be human flown (don't worry you megalomaniacs - there will never be more than a few in any one mission)
IE they must be the first pilot seats filled for each mission.
2) For every C-47 that doesn't make it to their destination , the fuel loads for the next Mission will be reduced by 10%.
(I am well aware that if fuel loads deteriorate to , say 40% , it may be necessary for some human flown aircraft to delay take off
for 10 or 15 minutes.
I thought it would be useful for you guys to get an understanding of why I approach mission building the way I do ,
and how it fits in to the scenario of Deadline Manila Missions.
Kopfdorfer
I'll fly a transport.
~S
S~
Thanks for the additional info about your intentions when building missions and the concepts you like to integrate. The additional challenges you build in do make for being a lot busier in the cockpit which adds a lot to the immersion factor for me. I'm good with flying any slot including transport pilots and gunner seats.
Just to underline - transports won't be in every mission , but I was searching for a way to make them relevant
for the ones they are in.
Just so the pilots understand they are important to fly , to escort , and to land.
Oh , and the Japanese will likely have something to say about it too.
Kopfdorfer
I like to fly them as well :drinking-43:
Mission 3 Deadline Manila
25 Dec 1941
Japanese Troops are closing on Manila from the North and South.
All B-17s are being withdrawn from Luzon to Mindanao.
The USN has also ordered the withdrawal of Naval and Commercial vessels from Manila Bay to
Mindanao , Java , and Australia.
The Japanese are expected to attack the withdrawing units.
(https://s19.postimg.org/uys3x6k3n/DM_Mission_3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/d8qfc56in/)
There will be NO MINIMAP PATHS for this mission. Time to spread your wings and use your compass.
ORDERS :
B17s Clark (AI ONLY) withdraw to Mindanao.
20th FS Clark Field 2 x P40Bs will escort withdrawing B17s as far as SE Mindoro.
Pancake Orani Emergency Field.
39th FS Del Carmen 4 x P35(Re2000) Patrol Manila Bay Corregidor - Cavite - Manila
Pancake Nichols Field.
17th FS Nichols Field 2 x P40E , 4 x P40C Patrol Manila - Lucena Highway and interdict enemy vehicular movement. An O-46 Observer AC will spot enemy ground targets.
Pancake Orani Emergency Strip.
1 x O-46 (R-XIII Hack) Zablan Field will patrol the Manila - Lucena Highway and direct 17th FS to enemy vehicular targets.
Pancake Nichols.
6thFS Philippine Army Air Force 9 x P-26 will CAP Manila Bay Cavite - Manila - Corregidor
Pancake Nichols Field.
Kopfdorfer
I like the setup that we flew last mission. and now you want to change the setup again! no no this is not for me I need mimi map path on.
Don't be scared Mona...
Remember, that back in the day at least the flight leaders had a map of the area in the cockpit. So having the mini-map on is not a far reach from history. :)
He didn't have a moving map with own ship position......
??? thought there was heavies.. no heavies??? :sad-056:
No Bear , Sorry.
No Heavies for the rest of the Deadline Manila Missions. They were gone.
(There is however the possibility of following on Deadline Manila with the Missions of Royce Force ,
flown with B25s and B17s from Mindanao April 11,12,13 1942.)
Kopf
well then what was all the talk of C47 and B17s being flown?? just the 2 missions?
Im in...ask anyone... (wavey) I'll fly anything
Dito
There will be C47s , and PBYs available in the future.
Not B17s though.
When you say heavies I think B17,B24,Ju52, Pe8 and such.
Sorry for the vocabulary difference.
Kopf
ah ok.. your forgiven.. lol
Hey Guys ,
Just a note to let you know I have added 2 skins to the skinpack (and am likely to add at least one more when it is done). See the first post of the thread - you have a choice to download the complete (revised) Skinpack , or just the 2 additional Skins.
Hope you are enjoying Deadline Manila - it will get harder !
Kopfdorfer
Hey Guys,
I don't know if anyone is expecting to fly tonight , but I have Mission 4 prepared in case.
30 December 1941
Gen MacArthur declared Manila an open city on Dec 26 in order to spare its destruction. He declared Plan Orange in full effect.
Plan Orange was the pre-WW2 plan for the defense of Luzon in case of Japanese invasion. It required the withdrawal of all
defensive forces and supplies in Luzon into the Bataan peninsula where they would hold until reinforced by the US.
Unfortunately for the men carrying out Plan Orange, the allocated supplies had been distributed throughout the Philippine Islands ,
and very little was available to move into Bataan , and the US General Defense Staff had already determined that they were not
going to reinforce the battle for the Philippines , which they felt was a losing cause.
The men left to fight there were not informed.
The Japanese takeover left Manila and all its industrial assets in Japanese hands. In addition , Nichols Field and Cavite Naval Base
had been taken with minimal effort and cost. Fortunately , the fortress of Corregidor prevented any IJN vessels from entering
Manila Bay and using the facilities and supplies in Manila and Cavite.
Iba , Clark and Del Carmen Airfields had been captured by the Japanese , who intended to put them to immediate use.
Subic Bay Naval Station on the west coast would soon be under attack. USAFFE began withdrawing all Naval Vessels capable of
reaching Australia , Java , or Hawaii.
Today's Operations
ALL AIRCRAFT ARE RESTRICTED TO 50% FUEL LOADS
NO MINIMAP PATHS - IF YOU NEED ONE THAT BADLY , TAKE A SCREENSHOT IN FMB
AND MARK YOUR ROUTE LIKE A WW2 PILOT
2 x C47s of 52nd TCW out of Masbate Emergency Strip will fly vital supplies into Luzon.
One will pancake at Mariveles Field , the other at Kindley Field Corregidor.
Be advised that these are small rough strips and will require care to land successfully.
Note also that for each/either C47 shot down , the friendly fuel load for Mission 5 will be REDUCED BY 10% !
They will be escorted by 2 x P40B of 20th FS out of Masbate.
2 x P40B 20th FS Masbate escort 2 x C47 to Luzon (Kindley and Mariveles)
Pancake Pilar
2 x PBY VP101 Subic conduct Anti-Shipping Patrols along the West Coast of Luzon.
PBY - "M" Patrol is north : Subic Bay - Iba - Point AY-56 - Mariveles
PBY - "A" Patrol is south : Subic Bay - Island AZ-43 - North Coast of Mindoro - Mariveles
Both PBYs land at Mariveles Dock.
1 x O-46 Spotter Pilar take off and identify targets for P40s of 3rdFS in BA-48 and BB-48.
Pancake Mariveles.
2 x P40E(bombs) , 2 x P40C(bombs) 3rd FS Pilar attack ground targets as directed by O-46.
Pancake Pilar
2 x P40E(bombs) , 2 x P40C(bombs) 17th FS Orani attack Japanese Troops digging in around
Del Carmen Airfield.
Pancake Pilar
2 x P40B , 2 x P35(RE2000)(bombs) 39th FS Mariveles attack Nichols Field then CAP
between Corregidor - Subic.
Pancake Mariveles.
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Ill take a C47 pilot seat please..
#2 C47 for me please :happy-016:
PBY
Skinpack Updated 1-1-2018
See the Dropbox links in the initial post at the beginning of the thread
Kopf
Skinpack Updated 8/1/2018
I hope this is the last one !
Kopf
Mission 4 AAR
Well I enjoyed last night's mission - though I spent most of it watching as I got zapped right after dropping my ordnance
on Nichols Field about 7 minutes into the mission.
The good news is both C-47s made it into Luzon , so no fuel shortage for Mission 5.
Bad news is that Japanese troops overran Orani Airfield , and now we are compressed into Pilar , Mariveles and Kindley Airfield on Corregidor Island.
We lost our last O-46 , so future spotting must be done by Jeep. Yep.
We also lost one of our last 2 PBYs so we are down to one there as well.
I totally enjoyed watching Fragmann evade the Ki-27s in the C-47. Impressive.
I do want to comment on the use of minimap path.
Last night's mission was a good example of why I don't believe in it.
The term Situational Awareness always comes in to any discussion of air fighting - the ability to see and sense what is going on around you in order to determine the best action in a given situation (in brief).
While chiefly concerned with fighter tactics, I believe it comes into any successful operational assessment and outcome.
I believe that the minimap path inhibits both the immediate situational awareness (the current mission) ,
and retards the development of situational awareness as a combat tool - if you don't use it , you don't get better at it.
It also uses a limitations of the FMB as a crutch for situational awareness.
While I do acknowledge that when a military unit is given an order , it is the expectation that it will be carried out. That being said, if a "general" military objective is given (ie "anti-shipping patrol - as for the PBYs last night) , there is an understanding that a certain amount of discretion is on the commander of the aircraft as to what ships to attack - or in fact whether to attack anything else if no ships are spotted. I want my missions to reflect this quandry for the combat pilot.
Clearly last night the interpretation was that "I must not attack these 4 ships I am passing by because I have an attack waypoint further along my flight path and therefore must attack what is there". Well while there may have been some intelligence historically to suggest that there MIGHT be a target where the Gattack Waypoint was on the minimap path , there are never such assurances on the battlefield.
As a Mission designer I am limited by what the FMB can do. Not knowing whether a human pilot or an AI will be fulfilling the patrol of the PBY , I am obliged to place a Gattack Waypoint on the flight path , or the AI PBY will sail happily by all targets. I could just place the minimap path with no waypoints , but then the AI doesn't behave as desired.
Now I am not intending to disparage the pilot of the PBY (I don't know your voices yet , sorry and I can't remember who flew it) he proceeded to hit and damage the ship and destroy 2 seaplanes at the Gattack Waypoint. My problem is that I wish to impart fog of war to my missions , and the minimap path cripples this at the outset. I want the pilot to have to seek out the target , not know absolutely that it is there.
Many , many , many more combat missions were flown that had no combat than those that did. I realize that most of us fly IL2 to get the satisfaction of hitting our target , but I believe that the real draw is drama , and there is more drama in NOT knowing what is over the horizon.
Please please please DO NOT ENABLE THE MINIMAP PATH on the next mission. There are only a few DM Missions left , and if you don't like the missions I design , you don't have to fly them. I truly believe if you embrace what I am trying to do 2 things will happen.
1) You will still enjoy the missions even if they aren't what you are used to.
2) Your situational awareness will improve.
As I said , if you guys as a group aren't enjoying the missions this way , that's fine.
Then the ball is in my court as to whether to submit any more or not.
But at least give it an honest try to see if you like them the way they are intended to be flown.
Finally , I want to say that regardless of how this turns out , I appreciate the welcome I have been shown here.
I realize that I am known in far circles as a somewhat belligerent personality.
Sincerely ,
Kopfdorfer
Ok.. i just kinda skimmed over that and this is my 2 cents on the minimap path... most of the ppl here in AH have always used certain settings.. we are just now exploring no enemy padlock for example.. we have several members who are alittle older and need these aids because after all.. we are all here to have fun.. personally i can, and have flown full switch before and dont mind it.. I personally like realistic navigation... but its not for everyone... I would like you to understand this and consider it when we play.. after all.. not only are you new, but not even been admitted as an AH member as of yet that i am aware of. We play for the fun of the game for everyone and go at the pace best suited for all members. Kinda like the old adage " you can only go as fast as your slowest member" already a few time folks have bowed out because of these new constricting settings and I for one dont like that fact. Perhaps this should be more addressed in our next meeting. Perhaps even these missions shouldnt absorb days we already have events ongoing and moved to its own time and day?
Again.. my 2 cents .. not to be read into as angry or anything like that ... just my opinion...
I think we all like something new like this .. but not so dictated on game settings we all enjoy...
~S~ Bear
Well.
Bear, he isn't asking for full switch, he just wants to turn off MM path.
I kinda like the idea of improving our navigation skills. And again if the settings aren't for you that's OK too.
I do like your idea of revisiting the day we fly it.
More to come...
~S
S~
I like trying different settings. Keeps things interesting by adding new challenges. That being said, if we were to always fly with no air padlock and no ground padlock I would most likely lose interest and eventually stop playing - but I don't think that's where we're headed even though I noticed the no air padlock setting creeping in to coops where we're flying against all AI -and to be honest, there has been the occasional night I've decided to not fly and that has been part of the reason. I don't want that to stop anyone from hosting with that setting if that's the popular choice. I'm ok with it a lot of the time, and other times I just don't want to work that hard to have some fun on that particular day.
Likewise, if a mission builder wants a particular setting or settings, I'm ok with that, too. The mission builders understand participation is directly related to settings and usually are very good about which settings are up for a vote, and which settings they want definitely on or off. Then balance their vision of how a mission they've built should be set up with how many will or won't fly those settings and adjust them knowing full well that some of the settings might decrease participation.
I don't think wearing an AH tag has any relevance regarding a mission builder's settings choices, though. The important thing is to be able to speak up and be heard; which has always been the way it is with AH. Kopf has been good about asking which settings are AH standard settings, and has been quite even handed and clear in letting us know the reasons why he's changed some settings for his missions away from his preference in order to encourage people to participate and why some of the settings aren't up for debate - and if they're not for me, no offense taken if I opt out because of it. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
Different night? Sure, makes no difference to me what night we fly it. It might even make sense to change nights since there are most likely at least one or two people that want to fly Kopf's missions but can't make it on the nights we're flying them now but could be there another night. It's also likely at least one or two people can be there but aren't flying that night only because the don't like the different settings on that nights' mission. If changing the night gets more guys in the air on either night, why wouldn't we change it?
We've always been fortunate to have very talented mission builders come our way. Without the skill, knowledge, effort, and creativity of the mission builders it's easy to imagine having gotten bored with this game long ago. Not to say they're the only people that put in more than their fair share of time keeping us all interested and having fun, but in my opinion all of the people whose missions I've had the good fortune to be able to fly are the people that keep the game alive. Thank all you FMB guys for that. Now, get back in your basements and build me something I really like, and maybe throw in some Rufes for Jack. I think they're one of his favorites to fly. Thanks.
Well Said BB. :happy-112:
Deadline Manila Mission 5
[Given the discussion last time , I don't know whether this is still being flown Monday or not.
It will be ready. Just let me know.]
Well we dished out some punishment last time and we took some.
The enemy has taken Manila , Cavite , Clark Field , Del Carmen Field and Subic Bay and the town of Olangapo ant the Naval Repair Yard there ,
before we were able to disable all the facilities.
Spies in Northern Luzon have alerted FEAF HQ to a convoy of ships heading south along the west coast , undoubtedly heading for Subic , and likely carrying ammunition , food , medical supplies and reinforcements.
We don't want them to unload unhindered in Subic !
Because we lost our last O-46 Spotter , now we have to use Jeeps to observe enemy forces and movements.
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The first 6 spots occupied should be 2 x Jeeps , 3 x C47 and 1 x B17
Jeep 05 - Orani Drive General Wainright from Orani past Pilar and to the HQ (Nissen Huts) at Mariveles Dock.
Park at the US Flag and Airfield Campfire.
Jeep 09 - Western Bataan. No one wants this mission , but we need to drive an Observer through our lines up the coast to the point
overlooking Subic Bay to direct the attacks on the incoming Jap Ships and the Dock Area. After Mission completion , get back to friendly lines.
1 x C47 52nd TCW Mariveles take off , link up with 1 x C47 52nd TCW Kindley and head south to Masbate Emergency Strip.
2 x P35(RE2000) 39th FS Mariveles escort 2 x C47 to Masbate.
1 x C47 , 1 x B17E (stripped down to carry personnel and supplies) 52nd TCW Masbate fly up to Luzon.
B17 to Mariveles , C47 to Kindley.
2 x P35(RE2000) Masbate escort C47 and B17E Masbate to Luzon.
Pancake Mariveles.
1 x PBY VP101 (bombs) Mariveles Dock Take off and Attack Ships entering Subic Bay.
Landing at Mariveles Dock.
2 x P40B 3rd FS Orani fly E and S down to Mariveles and escort PBY to Subic and back.
Pancake Mariveles.
4 x P40E(bombs) and 2 x P40C(bombs) 20th FS Pilar , take off and form up over Manila Bay and await the order from the observer Jeep
to attack targets in Subic Bay. If no orders come 15 minutes into the Mission , attack is at the discretion of the P40E leader.
Im in for a B17 please ...:)
If thats not flyable then C47 i guess.. lol./.. rooting for the B17 tho..;)
C-47 please
S! Guys I have found you a jeep with a 50 cal here you go https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,39282.msg437694.html#msg437694
Im pretty sure we would all have to install this jeep for it to be seen by all.. :thinking-008:
PBY for me please
Regarding the Jeep , if you have an HSFX7 install , you have it.
Kopfdorfer
Quote from: Kopfdorfer on January 15, 2018, 01:49:35 AM
Regarding the Jeep , if you have an HSFX7 install , you have it.
Kopfdorfer
not with the 50 cal though
S! that why I put up the link for the guys that fly your campaign will have the 50 cal for the jeep. PS Hogan :give-me-beer-0034:
Does the Re.2000 have a fuel gauge? I can't seem to spot it if it does.
DW
Quote from: _AH_DarkWolf on January 16, 2018, 12:12:46 AM
Does the Re.2000 have a fuel gauge? I can't seem to spot it if it does.
DW
I looked .. couldnt find it ..
According to the 4.10 manual on page 18 , the Re2000 fuel gauge is two dials on the port cockpit wall just behind
and a bit below the throttle quadrant.
Kopfdorfer
Ah ok, I see them. They seem to work.
I wonder what the difference is between them. The top one has a higher capacity than the lower and seems to drain first. Does one indicate wing tanks and the other fuselage tanks?
DW
No Savvy.
Kopf
Quote from: _AH_DarkWolf on January 16, 2018, 01:29:54 AM
Ah ok, I see them. They seem to work.
I wonder what the difference is between them. The top one has a higher capacity than the lower and seems to drain first. Does one indicate wing tanks and the other fuselage tanks?
DW
yep.. i agree..
Well , the Mission Designer for that one needs a bit of a spanking.
Realism - probably yes.
Playability - not up to snuff.
Better next time.
Kopfdorfer
That cruiser took 4x500 lbs bombs and stayed afloat, no doubt she sank after we left the game ... lol :)
Deadline Manila Mission 6
We took a beating on the last mission.
Lots of damage to P40s and we lost one of the few remaining C-47s in the Philippines.
USAFFE has decided to withdraw as many Command Cadre and wounded as possible from Luzon.
The B17 and C-47 that arrived last mission will head back to Masbate , as will our last remaining PBY, escorted by our last 2 P-35s.
The brave Marine Gunnery Sgt Jack Clowney who volunteered to spot for the Ground Attack Aircraft over Subic Bay has been mentioned in dispatches. Clowney's jeep was last seen under heavy attack by enemy aircraft and naval gunfire. He is officially listed as MIA.
Since then the IJA and IJN have been pounding Corregidor from the air daily.
We have a standing patrol (one section of 2 aircraft) at all times in daylight , as well as other P40s on standby at Mariveles and Pilar.
We expect Corregidor to be attacked again today.
Scuttlebutt has it that the sub parked at Corregidor is taking out all the gold in the Philippine Treasury !
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***Orders of the Day :
1 x B17E 52nd TCW Mariveles Evacuate Wounded and Command Cadre to Masbate
1 x C-47 52nd TCW Kindley Evacuate Wounded and Command Cadre to Masbate
1 x PBY VP-101(2x500lb bombs) Mariveles Dock Evacuate to Masbate Dock (BO-37-3).
PBY is free to engage shipping en route.
2 x P35(RE2000) 39th FS Escort B17, C-47, PBY to Masbate
***NOTE : All Flights above rendezvous with Flight of 2 x P40Cs 39th FS out of Masbate over island Grid Reference BI-41
2 x P40C 39th FS Masbate rendezvous with outgoing flights from Luzon over Island in Grid Reference BI-41.Pancake Masbate.
24th Composite Group Luzon
2 x P40B 20th FS AIRSTART 40% Fuel.
CAP Patrol Area 1 : Manila Bay Corregidor - Manila – Orani
Pancake Pilar
2 x P40E 20th FS Pilar CAP Patrol Area 3 : Bataan from Del Carmen to Corregidor
Pancake Pilar
2 x P40C 17th FS Mariveles CAP Patrol Area 3 : Bataan from Corregidor to Del Carmen
Pancake Mariveles
2 x P40E 3rd FS Mariveles CAP Patrol Area 2 :
West side Bataan - Mariveles to Subic Bay.Pancake Mariveles
PBY please ... :)
B17 plz
C-47 as usual thnx
Deadline Manila Mission 7
Description January 27 , 1942
Well , the Mud-Marines and the Philippine Army have been holding the Japanese out of southern Bataan for a couple of weeks now. I don't know how.
As dawn rose this morning , observers along the SW coast of Bataan were alarmed to see an enemy troopship and landing craft steaming ashore from Bagac Bay behind our lines. (Intel Confirms 1 Troop Carrier , plus a 2 Gunboat Escort , as well as landing craft)
As you can guess , this caused the brass a certain amount of excitement.
General Wainwright is at Pilar Airfield following an evening inspection yesterday.
The boys on Corregidor have patched together a flying O-46 from parts , and it will have to get to Pilar and pick up General Wainright right away.
And just when you thought it couldn't get much worse , a Jap flying boat (big sucker - an Emily) flew over Masbate Emergency Field this morning.We have to assume that the Japs have finally located our base there , and will now give it some unwelcome attention.
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****ORDERS of the DAY****
Mind your fuel loads - we are short of every kind of supply about now , and nothing is as precious as avgas - except maybe P40s... or bombs.
2 x P40E(bombs) 3rd FS Pilar Take off and attack Jap ships in Bagac Bay
Pancake Pilar
2 x P40B 3rd FS Pilar Take off and provide CAP for all Ground Attack P40s of 3rd and 17th FS over Bagac Bay .
Pancake Pilar
2 x P40E(bombs) , 2 x P40C(bombs) 17th FS Mariveles Take off and attack Jap Ships in Bagac Bay
Pancake Mariveles
O-46 Corregidor Special Liaison Flight
Following successful completion of EACH LEG of this mission , you will receive a text message with your next set of orders.
Take Off and fly to Pilar. Pick up Gen Wainwright (taxi to the HQ Nissan Huts - illuminated by fires) , and wait for the message that he is onboard) and fly him to Corregidor.
At Corregidor , taxi to the Campfire at the western end of the runway. A Jeep will deliver the SitRep for the General. When you receive the text message that the General has the SitRep , fly him to Mariveles.
Meet his HQ Co. at the Campfire by the runway. When you receive the message that he is on his way to the front , return to Corregidor.
Pancake Corregidor.
PBY VP-101 You have the last 2 bombs on Masbate on board. Put them to good use.
Take off from Masbate dock and patrol the strait between Masbate and Luzon , and Samar and Luzon. Attack any ships encountered.
Land at Masbate Dock.
2 x P35s 39th FS Masbate Take off and Escort the PBY on its anti-shipping patrol as long as fuel allows.
Pancake Masbate.
B-17E 52nd TCW Masbate . We don't have enough fuel for you to fly , but man your machine guns - we expect a Jap air attack at any time.
2 x P40C 39th FS Masbate Your aircraft are needed at Luzon.
Take off and get to Luzon ASAP. Once there CAP as long as fuel allows.
Pancake Mariveles.
PBY ... Plz :) If I see'em ... I'll bomb'em to hell and back !!! :)
so.. the B17 isnt flying?
No. Just AAMG Defense for the base.
Deadline Manila Mission 8
February 1942
We are losing ground in Bataan.
Well it looks like the reinforcements we were supposed to receive from Stateside to drive the Japs out of Luzon were just another politician's promise.
No-one has seen "Dugout Doug" (Gen MacArthur ) on the frontline for weeks.
Scuttlebutt is that he is deep in a bunker on Corregidor.
At least when the Japs bomb Corregidor , they aren't bombing the troops on Bataan.
All that's left of the FEAF is a ramshackle collection of P40 parts that sometimes flies in the guise of a few fighters. We are now calling it the 24th Composite Group. We only have 3 airfields in Luzon - Pilar (under enemy artillery fire) , Mariveles , and Kindley on Corregidor.
Our attempts to destroy the Japanese amphibious force that landed behind our lines at Bagac Bay were unsuccessful , but the Philippine Army has driven them into the jungle on the hills to the east , so at least they didn't split our forces on western Bataan.
In addition , now that the Nips have discovered our emergency base at Masbate , it has been getting regular attention - mostly from seaplanes.
We believe an enemy Seaplane Tender is currently operating somewhere off the coast of Samar Island.
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Orders of the Day
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Men , we are running short of all necessary supplies.
We are resorting to desperate measures to hold Bataan.
2 x P40E(bombs) 3rd FS Pilar
2 x P40C(bombs) 3rd FS Pilar
2 x P40E(bombs) 17th FS Mariveles
2 x P40C(bombs) 17th FS Mariveles
1 x O-46 Kindley available to spot for ground targets.
Working as a team , attack any/all of the following target list as ordinance
loads allow.
Target List
(Selection and attack as per Senior Air Officer Flying)
1) Enemy Artillery abandoned Seaplane Base BB-45-9.
2) Enemy Ground Troops Orani Airfield and Coastal belt in BB-47-8.
3) Enemy Ground Units north shore Bagac Bay BA-47-5.
4) Enemy Ground Units Coastal Belt BB-48-1.
5) Enemy Patrol Gunboats west of Mariveles and Corregidor.
6) Enemy Aircraft Nichols Field
After bomb drop assume CAP over Corregidor as long as fuel allows.
1 x PBY(default only) VP-101 Masbate Docks
Patrol northwestern Samar searching for the enemy Seaplane Tender.
DO NOT ENGAGE - mark the position exactly for a future strike.
Landing Masbate Docks.
2 x C47 , 1 x B17 61st TCG Del Monte #1 (secret field) Mindanao fly to Masbate.Rendezvous with 2 x P35s over Leyte in BV-29.
Pancake Masbate.
2 x P35 39th FS Masbate Rendezvous with 2 x C47 and 1 x B17 over Leyte in BV-29 , escort to Masbate.
Pancake Masbate
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Kopfdorfer
I didnt see any maps.. but ill take the B17 please..
PBY Pilot reporting for duty :)
Are there any bombing mission for the B17s at any time?? Im good for runway targets from 30,000 ft... :happy-112:
C-47 for me please
Deadline Manila Mission 9
11 March 1942
1700 hours
We've lost Pilar Field on the East Side of Bataan , leaving us with just Mariveles on the mainland , and Kindley on Corregidor. The Engineers have scraped another field out of the jungle, which the Doughs have dubbed "Bataan Field" just to the east of Mariveles.
The Bataan perimeter is shrinking daily and the Japs have just brought in a Division of reinforcements at Lingayen Gulf.\Our only fresh food , medicine and ammo is coming in by submarine and transport flights - but there aren't that many transports left , and the deliveries have been undependable.
In fact their are more Air Force men in the Army than in the Air Force here on Luzon !
The brass is finally admitting aloud that we are going to lose Bataan, but since no US Army has ever surrendered the field , well , you guys see how it is.
The transports are taking out officers and technical specialists to Australia to help train the reinforcements that are heading there now - rather than here.
And to top it all off , scuttlebutt has it that the 3 MTBs we are escorting this evening are carrying Dugout Doug himself , his staff and his family out of the Philippines to Australia to lead the reinforcements !
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***ORDERS of the DAY***
WATCH YOUR FUEL LOADOUTS - SHORTAGE CONTINUES !!!
2 x P40E(bombs) and 2 x P40C(bombs) 17th FS Mariveles suppress enemy fighters at Nichols (BD-46-8) and Zablan (BE-45-3) Airfields.
Pancake Mariveles.
2 x P40C 20th FS (AIRSTART AX-43) Escort of 3 x MTB - keep station until relieved by the rest of the Sqdn.
Pancake Mariveles.
2 x P40E 20th FS Bataan Field - Relieve 3rd Flight 3FS (AY-41) Escorting 3 x MTB as long as fuel allows.
Pancake Bataan Field.
2 x P40C 20th FS Bataan Field rendezvous with incoming Transports at BH-40 and escort to Luzon.
Pancake Bataan Field.
2 x C47 and 1 x B17E 61st TCW (Evacuation) Masbate 1 x C47 to Kindley , 1 x C47 to Bataan Field , and 1 x B17E to Mariveles.
1 x C47 Pancake Bataan Field.
1 x C47 Pancake Kindley Field , Corregidor.
1 x B17 Pancake Mariveles.
2 x P35(RE2000) 39th FS Masbate Escort 3 x Transports until relieved by P40s of 20th FS at rendezvous point BH-40.
Pancake Masbate.
Kopfdorfer
B17 pls
Deadline Manila Mission 10
Evacuation of Bataan
Description 13 March 1942
0700 hours
Well that's it.
We just got word from Corregidor.
Every plane that can fly is getting out of Luzon immediately.
The mechanics have been working for 2 days straight to
make every possibly aircraft capable of flight.
We had a couple of minor crack ups on the 11th.
All told , we have 3 x P40E , 3 x P40C , 1 x B17 , 1 x C47 and
1 x O-46 on Luzon to get to Masbate.
Every other guy in an Air Force Uniform gets a rifle , and that's it.
We haven't heard anything about whether McArthur made it
to Mindanao or not.
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***ORDERS OF THE DAY***
All Aircraft at Mariveles , Bataan Field and Kindley Take Off and Evacuate for Masbate.
All P40s act as escort for all transports.
(Flight Distance ~ 100 miles)
1 x B17E 61 TCW Mariveles
1 x C47 61 TCW Bataan Field
2 x P40E and 1 x P40C 3rd FS Mariveles
1 x P40E and 2 x P40C 17th FS Bataan Field
1 x O-46 US FEAF Kindley Field Corregidor
All evacuating aircraft rendezvous with Masbate P35s at grid BH-40
Pancake Masbate
2 x P35 (RE2000) 39th FS Masbate rendezvous with evacuees BH-40.
Pancake Masbate.
Good Day and Good Luck.
MacArthur claimed he would be back , but it won't be with us !
B17 plz
C-47 please
P40E
~S
Only 8 AC, looks like Bear is gonna have a plane full of human gunners.
S!